{"id":1767,"date":"2009-03-25T07:22:38","date_gmt":"2009-03-25T07:22:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/wordpress\/2009\/03\/25\/cden-du-24-mars-2009-carte-scolaire-dialogue-impossible-aucun-changement\/"},"modified":"2009-03-25T07:22:38","modified_gmt":"2009-03-25T07:22:38","slug":"cden-du-24-mars-2009-carte-scolaire-dialogue-impossible-aucun-changement","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/snuipp86.fr\/index.php\/2009\/03\/25\/cden-du-24-mars-2009-carte-scolaire-dialogue-impossible-aucun-changement\/","title":{"rendered":"CDEN du 24 mars 2009 : Carte scolaire : Dialogue impossible : AUCUN CHANGEMENT"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class='rss_texte'>\n<p class=\"spip\">AUCUN DEBAT POSSIBLE<\/p>\n<p class=\"spip\">Apr\u00e8s pr\u00e9sentation par l&rsquo;IA de sa proposition de carte scolaire, toutes les parties en pr\u00e9sence (repr\u00e9sentants des personnels, des parents, des associations compl\u00e9mentaires \u00e9ducatives de l&rsquo;\u00e9cole publique, les \u00e9lus, conseillers g\u00e9n\u00e9raux, conseiller r\u00e9gional) ont \u00e9galement pr\u00e9sent\u00e9 leurs dol\u00e9ances.<\/p>\n<p class=\"spip\">Ce \u00e0 quoi le Pr\u00e9fet a r\u00e9pondu en quelques minutes que le dossier carte scolaire Ecoles \u00e9tait r\u00e9current (il pr\u00e9side depuis 15 ans des CDEN explique-t-il), que c&rsquo;\u00e9tait toujours le m\u00eame discours, que nous en demandions toujours plus, qu&rsquo;il fallait comprendre que l&rsquo;Etat avait des obligations et donc qu&rsquo;il fallait les int\u00e9grer pour avoir un vrai dialogue et non un dialogue de sourds.<\/p>\n<p class=\"spip\"><strong class=\"spip\">Entendez que nous sommes particuli\u00e8rement mal malentendants et que nos revendications pour \u00e9viter que l&rsquo;Ecole publique soit assassin\u00e9e ne sont pas &#8230;. entendables !<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"spip\">Sur ce, voyant que nous voulions r\u00e9agir, <strong class=\"spip\">le pr\u00e9fet a d\u00e9clar\u00e9 que ses propos n&rsquo;appelaient pas \u00e0 d\u00e9bat ainsi que les r\u00e9ponses de l&rsquo;IA<\/strong> faisant suite \u00e0 nos demandes :<\/p>\n<p class=\"spip\">Revoir totalement sa copie d\u00e9partementale \u00e0 savoir :<br \/>\n<br \/><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/snuipp86.fr\/wp-content\/spip\/cache-vignettes\/L8xH11\/puce-68c92.gif\" width='8' height='11' alt=\"-\" style='height:11px;width:8px;' class='' \/> annuler les mesures concernant les d\u00e9charges de direction et remettre les acquis d\u00e9partementaux<br \/>\n<br \/><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/snuipp86.fr\/wp-content\/spip\/cache-vignettes\/L8xH11\/puce-68c92.gif\" width='8' height='11' alt=\"-\" style='height:11px;width:8px;' class='' \/> ne pas fermer les postes RASED dont trois coll\u00e8gues en sont titulaires<br \/>\n<br \/><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/snuipp86.fr\/wp-content\/spip\/cache-vignettes\/L8xH11\/puce-68c92.gif\" width='8' height='11' alt=\"-\" style='height:11px;width:8px;' class='' \/> revoir les implantations des surnum\u00e9raires par exemple sur Civray et Couh\u00e9 et prendre en compte la situation des coll\u00e8gues de retour de stages ASH<br \/>\n<br \/><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/snuipp86.fr\/wp-content\/spip\/cache-vignettes\/L8xH11\/puce-68c92.gif\" width='8' height='11' alt=\"-\" style='height:11px;width:8px;' class='' \/> revenir sur les fermetures de postes dits Hors Classe<br \/>\n<br \/><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/snuipp86.fr\/wp-content\/spip\/cache-vignettes\/L8xH11\/puce-68c92.gif\" width='8' height='11' alt=\"-\" style='height:11px;width:8px;' class='' \/> revoir des situations d&rsquo;\u00e9cole<br \/>\n<br \/><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/snuipp86.fr\/wp-content\/spip\/cache-vignettes\/L8xH11\/puce-68c92.gif\" width='8' height='11' alt=\"-\" style='height:11px;width:8px;' class='' \/> remettre les moyens en \u00e9ducation prioritaire (pour les principales demandes )<\/font><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"spip\">Il a donc \u00e9t\u00e9 proc\u00e9d\u00e9 au vote sans aucune possibilit\u00e9 de discuter :<\/p>\n<p class=\"spip\">Le vote s&rsquo;est prononc\u00e9 majoritairement contre.<\/p>\n<p class=\"spip\">Cela n&rsquo;a pas eu l&rsquo;air d&rsquo;\u00e9mouvoir le pr\u00e9fet ni l&rsquo;IA d&rsquo;ailleurs.<\/p>\n<p class=\"spip\">Suite \u00e0 quoi le pr\u00e9fet retenu par des obligations r\u00e9gionales a quitt\u00e9 la s\u00e9ance.<\/p>\n<p class=\"spip\">Nous en avons fait de m\u00eame alors que le CDEN n&rsquo;\u00e9tait pas termin\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p class=\"spip\"><strong class=\"spip\">Mais devant une telle mascarade, un tel m\u00e9pris nous avons d\u00e9cid\u00e9 (tous les repr\u00e9sentants des personnels, des associations compl\u00e9mentaires \u00e9ducatives de l&rsquo;\u00e9cole publique, des \u00e9lus, une conseill\u00e8re g\u00e9n\u00e9rale, conseiller r\u00e9gional) de quitter cette instance \u00ab\u00a0insipide\u00a0\u00bb.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"spip\">La lutte continue dans la rue et partout o\u00f9 cela est possible.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class='rss_ps'><b>L&rsquo;IA n&rsquo;ouvre plus un demi poste au Centre Laborit.<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>AUCUN DEBAT POSSIBLE <br \/>Apr\u00e8s pr\u00e9sentation par l&rsquo;IA de sa proposition de carte scolaire, toutes les parties en pr\u00e9sence (repr\u00e9sentants des personnels, des parents, des associations compl\u00e9mentaires \u00e9ducatives de l&rsquo;\u00e9cole publique, les \u00e9lus, conseillers g\u00e9n\u00e9raux, conseiller r\u00e9gional) ont \u00e9galement pr\u00e9sent\u00e9 leurs dol\u00e9ances. <br \/>Ce \u00e0 quoi le Pr\u00e9fet a r\u00e9pondu en quelques minutes que le dossier carte scolaire Ecoles \u00e9tait r\u00e9current (il pr\u00e9side depuis 15 ans des CDEN explique-t-il), que c&rsquo;\u00e9tait toujours (&#8230;)<br \/>\n&#8211;<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/86.snuipp.fr\/spip.php?rubrique41\" 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